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these latest tips may not seem very strong...
however,
it is the little things that help sometimes.

60th:

Multiple Kings




Well I tried the 2 King's die Battlefest...during Dragonfest.
I was able to roll 2 Kings sucessfully...
since the Dragons did some huge damage to my army in the game's opening I had plenty of dead.

So now my little tip or pointer...

When having allot of dead...even commons...
I opted to roll the kings rather than recruit.
Now what this does,
if successfull,
you will have plenty of units in the reserve now to roll for magic...
to bring back even more units...
and then leave the reserves to avoid mutation.

So where to take the 8 health in place of the Kings?
I chose to take the hit in the horde army....
so you need a horde that can roll fairly well,
as to make up for being short in health.
Being that it is in a battlefest mode...
22 health maneuver horde can still roll ok.

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61st:
Wilding/Burning Hands (optional Bronze medallion)

I've only seen Chuck use this...
it's worth mentioning.

Burning Hands is a lasting spell...
so this combo is easier to get into play.
Perhaps a bronze medallion ....
one to add burning hands...and then cantrip in the Wilding

So a 4 melee result can then generate....
16 melee!!

bonus trick 102nd:
quadruple saves!!
http://sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=57781#57781

(if the bronze medallion were to flurry then TSR... 20 melee)

[chuckpint]

Jim, Flurry cannot be modified with any spell. Only normal melee results can doubled.

Note that in the rules, any effect that doubles cannot get multiplied by itself. So while Wilding allows you double melee results, if you have two Wildings cast on an army, then they would have to be used on two different units. However, any two different effects can get divided or multiplied on itself. So Feral units with a Trumpet, Wilding, and Burning Hands, could get 8 times! On the other hand, an army under the effects of Green Dragon Breath, Wall of Fog, and a Dust Devil would only get 1/8 of its missile results.
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[chuckpint]

So an army that consisted of a couple of Elephant-folk, Wolverine-folk, and a Bronze Medallion could generate 32 melee all in one action. I'm sure if we wait a little while, Brad could tell us the exact odds of that happening...
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My collection is 21,500 Dragon Diceâ„¢, 20,000 Daemon Diceâ„¢, and others (too many to count).

[Deeghter]

Yep!! Feral can kick ass!! They're one of my strongest armies!

In the Example above, consider a Tiger Folk rolling Double Strikes!!

Talk about wiping your opponent off the table!!!
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Ok the the Feral idea is nice...but I wanted to point out a trick I saw that was actually in play,
plus point out that it can be done with any unit and a Bronze medallion.

I like Chuck's missile defense...I'm going to modify it.

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62nd:
Missile Defense

Scalder Army, Wall of Fog, Dancing Lights, Green Dragon Breath...
and if you want to add, a few ash storms.

Chuck presented...

[cliffwiggs]

[chuckpint]

Since there would have to be two Elephant-folk, one to get the Trumpet, and one to get 4 melee, that's not quite right.

Elephant-folk has 3 in 10 chances to get 4 melee (counting the ID)
Second Elephant-folk has 2 in 10 to get Trumpet
Feral Cantrip is 1 in 6
Bronze Logo is not 1 in 3, if we are talking the chance to get exactly 32 melee, it's 1 in 4. If we are talking the chance to get 32 or more melee, then it's 1 in 3.

So the chance to get exactly 32 melee is 1 in 400. Or so it would seem. But since either Elephant-folk could get melee and the other Trumpet, it's better than that. I'm off to work, so I don't have time to figure out the exact odds. If someone else doesn't post it, I'll figure it out later.
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Battlefest tied for first GenCon 2012
Single Race Champion GenCon 2008-2009, Sealed Box Champion GenCon 2007,2009,
My collection is 21,500 Dragon Diceâ„¢, 20,000 Daemon Diceâ„¢, and others (too many to count).

[cliffwiggs]

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Well again...the Wilding/Burning hands (bronze medallion)

this was from an actual game.

First the medallion adds the burning hands...this stays with the unit.

Next the unit attacks...even if it does not hit the TSR logo...the normal melee will still be doubled, (burning hands)
so this combo may come into play..but it's not make or break.

Also the medallion may flurry several times...causing extra melee...

so this combo only needs 1 unit and one medallion to produce some large melee results...

I don't think the odds are that bad if you consider the various ways that the dice interact together.

This combo works with any race,
as the wilding comes from the TSR on the bronze medallion during a cantrip.

If using a unit(s) with red...then they may be able to get the burning hands, even in the reserves.

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In addition to Wilding Buring Hands...
add Necromantic Wave.

This pretty much covers the Necromancer/Wolverine battlefest army.

As Chuck has displayed...it can empower staggering melee results,
as an all magician army.


Open grave would be a good defense as their are no smites.
Also casting a Dancing lights will help tone down the Necromantic Wave.
If you have any Frostwing magicians,
Magic negation will also cut back the necromantic wave...
if you remember to roll them that is... deleted
more on this...
http://www.sfr-inc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1910&highlight=necromantic+wave[/s]

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63rd:

Rehide/Multiple Dragon Attacks


Ok this one I've heard Chuck talk about,
and Raven has just used it in an Online game.
So I think this is a real fantastic feral trick...
as it could be done as an Undead trick too...but not as effective, becuase the undead fade already has dragon protection at the beginning of the turn and until the end of the turn.

So what am I talking about...

simple..

the easiest defense against hide is to send a dragon...
however...if your opponent has to confront 2 separate dragon attacks...
if you let the dragons attack an army that can cantrip a hide spell first...
then the lone hidden unit...which hide has expired..
will now have a fresh new hide spell to protect it...from the second dragon attack.
(or however many armies you have...the order allows the unit to hide again with a cantrip...just in time)

Belly or Treasure Chest could save the unit but with multiple dragons...the hide covers it.

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64th:

Multiple Flash Fires

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65th

Hide/Fade/Camouflage Defenses

[Raven Bloodeyes]

[chuckpint]