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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:40 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yup my bad

my sally is going to walk over to my horde and that will do me.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:43 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Board before my turn. Double check to make sure everything is good to go.

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias
Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Dragon's Lair
Matthias's Home
Standing Stone
Deadlands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
Shizzle

Wind Walk
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:50 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st March - Home - Maneuver attempt

Apparition: 2 Magic
Genie: 4 ID
Heucava: 2 Magic
Heucava: 2 ID
Lich: 3 Magic
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Vampire: 3 Save

6 Total

If for some odd reason I win down to 2, magic either way -

Apparition: 1 Save
Genie: 4 ID
Heucava: 3 Melee
Heucava: 3 Magic
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Lich: 3 Melee
Vampire: 3 ID

(3 Genie IDs in a row...)

4 ID Firewalker
13 Undead (can double through dead if terrain is moved)

Spark of Life x 2 (6 Firewalker) to bring back Ghoul and Wraith
Restless Dead x 3 on home for 12 Undead
Ash Storm on my home for last 2 points Firewalker

2nd March - frontier - unopposed to 6

Reserves - Apparition to Frontier. Ghost to Reserves.

EoT

New Board (assuming you win counter maneuver at my home)
Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle
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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias
Matthias
Home Army

Restless Dead x 3
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Dragon's Lair
Matthias's Home
Standing Stone
Dead Lands / Ash Storm
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:05 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

counter maneuver

Fireshadow: 4 Counter
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: Rise from the Ashes
Phoenix: 4 Save
Salamander: 4 Save

sorry i guess your going down to 2? should i give you some time for your magic because i think you doubled your vamp
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:09 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

You had a Wind Walk so you got 8. You beat my 6.

Either way my vamp could have doubled through my dead.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:12 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st march

maneuver attempt with horde

Fireshadow: 4 Fly
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: 4 Save
Phoenix: Rise from the Ashes
Salamander: 4 ID

(about time they roll what i want.)

12 total so all you need is one
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:15 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter Maneuver -
Apparition: 1 Melee
Genie: Firewalking
Ghoul: 1 Magic
Heucava: 2 ID
Heucava: 2 Melee
Lich: 3 Save
Lich: 3 ID
Vampire: 3 Magic
Wraith: 1 ID

10 + 12 = 22
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:18 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

so magic i guess
Fireshadow: Create Fireminions
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: 4 Fly
Phoenix: 4 Fly
Salamander: 4 Smite

sweet 4 again.
ill cast flashfire on my horde
-flashfire roll for magic
Salamander: 4 Save

2nd march

maneuver at home unopposed so up to 5

Reserves
ill drop all of my horde to reserves

EoT
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:20 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the record - you wouldn't be able to reroll for flash fire because the results had already been finalized. Only with cantrips during other actions does that typically work because the cantrip resolves before the action does.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:22 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh i see i was kinda wondering about that and i edited my last post to show Reserves
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:32 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Board at the start of my turn -

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias
Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Dragon's Lair
Matthias's Home
Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA


1st March - home - magic
Apparition: 1 Magic
Genie: 4 Melee
Ghoul: 1 Save
Heucava: 2 Save
Heucava: 2 ID
Lich: 3 Magic
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Vampire: 3 Save
Wraith: 1 ID

14 Undead
Night moves on Campaign army for 9
Reanimate Dead on Wraith for 3
Nothing worth the last 2

Night moves - Frontier moves to 7 unopposed

2nd March - Campaign army - unopposed to 8
Magic Action
Apparition: 1 ID
Gryphon: 4 Rend
Unicorn: 4 Trample

2 Undead - nothing worth casting

Reserves - Ghost to Frontier
Home to Reserves.

EoT.

Board Before your turn
Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle
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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias
Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Matthias owns this joint
Matthias's Home
Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:42 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

you and your stupid night moves. (i always forget about that)

1st march
magic in Reserves

Fireshadow: Create Fireminions
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: 4 Save
Phoenix: Seize
Salamander: 4 Melee

4 total (at least my shadow is consistent)

ill burning hands one of my shadows at my home

Reserves
ill move every one to the middle. (no 2nd march)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:09 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Party at the Frontier!

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias
Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Matthias owns this joint
Matthias's Home
Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
BH
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA


Red Wyrm to my home with Dragon's Lair

1st March - Reserves - Magic
Apparition: 1 Melee
Genie: 4 Cantrip
Ghoul: 1 Magic
Heucava: 2 Melee
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 ID
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Vampire: 4 Melee
Wraith: 1 Melee
Wraith: 1 Melee

4 Firewalker
8 Undead

Flash Fire and Open Grave on Campaign army

2nd March - Frontier - Magic
Apparition: 2 Magic
Ghost: 3 Melee
Gryphon: 4 Melee
Unicorn: Dispel Magic

Evil Eye on your Frontier army

Reserves - 1 Wraith to yout home. Everybody else is joining the party!

EoT

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias

Open Grave / Flash Fire

Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Matthias owns this joint
Matthias's Home

Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
BH
Evil Eye
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:18 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget about the dragon that you put at my home.

1st march
maneuver attempt at frontier
Fireshadow: Create Fireminions
Fireshadow: Create Fireminions
Fireshadow: Create Fireminions
Genie: 4 Melee
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: 4 ID
Phoenix: Seize
Phoenix: Seize
Salamander: 4 Melee

total 16 (could be worse)

either way im going to box
Fireshadow: 4 Counter
Fireshadow: 4 Counter
Fireshadow: 4 Cantrip
Genie: 4 Melee
Gorgon: Flame
Phoenix: 4 Save
Phoenix: 4 Fly
Phoenix: Seize
Salamander: 4 ID

so you have flame and 24 incoming?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:24 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragon is at my home. I mistyped.

OK, counter maneuver -
Apparition: 1 ID
Apparition: 1 Magic
Genie: 4 Melee
Ghost: 3 Save
Ghoul: 1 Magic
Gryphon: 4 Rend
Heucava: 3 Magic
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 Save
Lich: 4 Cantrip
Unicorn: 4 Teleport
Vampire: 3 Save
Wraith: 1 Maneuver

28 (teleport = 16)

Would you like to resolve your cantrip before you continue?

(I only count 20. BH does not work on counter)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:32 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i would, seeing how we clarified this earlier ill go ahead and cast ill flash fire on my army, and saves count for melee.

flash fire reroll
phoenix with fly to Phoenix: 4 Smite

Teleport: Normal (maneuver); Special (any action or non-maneuver avoidance roll)
During a maneuver or maneuver avoidance roll, Teleport generates maneuver results. During any action or
non-maneuver avoidance roll, the teleporting unit may immediately move itself and up to three health-worth of
units in the army containing this unit to any terrain.

how does teleport count as 16 maneuvers?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:44 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Flame + Smite + 20?

Flame - Ghoul + Wraith - Roll for save against burial (undead racial)
Ghoul: 1 Save
Wraith: 1 Melee

Wraith to BuA
Ghoul to DuA

Smite - I'll take Vampire and Apparition (Smite goes through Open Grave) and Step in a Wight.

Save against 20 -

Apparition: 2 Magic
Genie: 4 Melee
Ghost: 3 Melee
Gryphon: 4 Fly
Heucava: 3 Magic
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 Magic
Lich: 3 Melee
Unicorn: 4 Counter
Wight: 2 Save

Flash Fire a Lich -

Lich: 4 Cantrip

Reanimate on the Ghoul
Ghoul: 1 ID

22 saves - 4 counter (you have to kill a monster)

Counter attack -
Apparition: 1 Magic
Genie: Firewalking
Ghost: 3 Melee
Ghoul: 1 ID
Gryphon: 4 ID
Heucava: 2 Magic
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 Magic
Lich: 3 ID
Unicorn: 4 Teleport
Wight: 2 ID

Flash Fire on Genie
Genie: 4 Melee

20 incoming
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:54 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill take a Phoeinx
so roll for rise from the ashes
Phoenix: 4 Save (nope)

save roll

Fireshadow: 4 Fly
Fireshadow: 4 Fly
Fireshadow: 4 Smite
Genie: Galeforce
Gorgon: 4 Maneuver
Phoenix: Seize
Phoenix: 4 Smite
Salamander: 4 Save

flash fire
Phoenix: Seize to Phoenix: Seize (great help huh?)

total 12 ill take 8 then both of which will be my other 2 phoenix
roll for rise from the ashes

Phoenix: Seize
Phoenix: 4 Fly
(still nothing)

not sure if Galeforce works in this but if so ill choose you.

(and thats going to do it for me tonight i have school)

EoT
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:09 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch whiffing with 3 phoenix...

Also Evil Eye only gives you 11 saves but you just absorb the 1 anyway.

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias



Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Matthias owns this joint
Matthias's Home

Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
BH
Flash Fire
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA


Other red dragon to your home.
1st March - Frontier - Magic

Apparition: 1 Melee
Genie: 4 Save
Ghost: 3 Melee
Ghoul: 2 Melee
Gryphon: Ferry
Heucava: 3 Magic
Heucava: 3 Melee
Lich: 3 Save
Lich: 3 ID
Unicorn: 4 Counter
Wight: 2 Save

9 Undead Magic
Open Grave on Fronteir army for 6
Reanimate Apparition for 3

2nd March - Horde - unopposed to 6 melee

EoT.

Turn Sequence: Matthias, Shizzle

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Matthias
BUA
Matthias
DUA
Matthias
Reserve Army
Matthias
Summoning Pool
*
Matthias
Matthias

Open Grave

Matthias
Home Army
Shizzle's Home
City
Frontier
Matthias owns this joint
Matthias's Home

Standing Stone
Dead Lands
Shizzle
Home Army
Shizzle
BH
Shizzle
*
Shizzle
Reserve Army
Shizzle
Summoning Pool
Shizzle
DUA
Shizzle
BUA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:24 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shizzle wrote:
how does teleport count as 16 maneuvers?

Teleport=4 maneuvers, x2 for controlling 8th face, x2 again for being a treefolk maneuver during a counter-maneuver roll.

4*2*2=16
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