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Firewalker vs Scorching touch

 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:08 pm GMT    Post subject: Firewalker vs Scorching touch Reply with quote

Hello.

I have recently discovered the "madness" of the Charkin who reflect eight damage to your face. I have then tried to see what can be done against this madness :
* missile attack. Their racial ensure this can only work with a dedicated missile wing, which not every army have.
* Cloak. Well, the dice is not released yet. Also, you need the cooperation of a dragon to have it active for the scorching touch.
* spells. Since I have read that magic save work two time against a Charkin's Counter, Green and Gold magic should be enough ; black provide Open Grave, which work well too.

This let Firewalker in the cold, at least apparently. Since their ranged units are pretty bad and usually left out, I don't see tricks for a firewalker-only army to not get slaughtered by a Charkin counter. Is there one which I didn't think of ?

(of course, a melee-only army of any race would have trouble, but that kind of army is asking for trouble anyhow)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:36 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firewalkers indeed do not have the greatest direct answers against Charkin. Some of the slightly less-direct ways in which the combo could be death with:
- Flame: combine two of these SAIs and make sure the Charkin never sees the light of day again
- Lightning strike: this might sound lame, but with the disturbing amounts of magic the Firewalkers can dish out and a 2/3 chance to kill, lightning strike is certainly worth it. This is probably the most promising route.
- Avoid direct confrontation: terrain flight should make this somewhat easier to achieve.
- Attack while at your 8th: you can double your melee results from saves, which almost gives you the same effect. Almost. (Though if you add some flaming armour of Wilding to that...)

Personally, I do not think that the Charkin are the worst things in the Scalders arsenal. Dragonne Knights and the Krakatoa-Combo however...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:15 pm GMT    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't see tricks for a firewalker-only army to not get slaughtered by a Charkin counter. Is there one which I didn't think of ?



Well first thing that comes to mind...
Charkins have only the ID and Counter as saves.

So Lightning Strike seems to be a nice choice.
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